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A comparative file for locations outside the three primary dossiers: alternative mountain identifications, regional traditions, modern claims and proposals that deserve documentation without automatic endorsement.

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Prepared by ArkSearch Editorial TeamLast reviewed October 31, 2026

Comparative file

Beyond the Three Main Contenders

At a Glance
Comparative file; proposals evaluated individually rather than as a single case
What is this file?A comparative record of proposed Ark locations and claims outside the three principal ArkSearch dossiers.
Evidence variesOlder geographical traditions, topography, satellite imagery, local identifications, and reinterpretations of ancient names.
Central challengeThe claims use different evidence types and often differ sharply in provenance, documentation, and testability.
What could elevate a proposal?Traceable historical or physical evidence, stronger provenance, and an explanation that survives comparison with competing locations.
In this dossier

ArkSearch does not let famous candidates erase the wider history. Some alternative locations come from old geographic traditions; others are recent proposals built around topography, satellite imagery or reinterpretations of ancient names.

Regional tradition

Armenian Highland Sites

Locations associated with Ararat/Urarṭu geography that are not the summit of modern Mount Ararat.

Alternative mountains

Neighboring Peaks

Proposals involving other peaks in eastern Turkey, the Caucasus and adjacent highlands.

Modern proposals

Remote-Sensing Claims

Sites proposed primarily through aerial, satellite or topographic resemblance rather than long historical tradition.

Place-name studies

Nakhchivan & Related Traditions

Regional names and Flood traditions that have been linked to Noah in historical or modern interpretation.

Iran / Zagros

Iranian Proposals

Modern claims in western Iran and the Zagros region assessed against text, geology, provenance and published field evidence.

Evaluation

What Makes a Stronger Case?

Stronger proposals combine traceable historical sources, coherent geography, site-specific evidence, and claims that can be independently tested.

Candidate Catalog / Unequal Evidence

Miscellaneous Sites & Claims

These cases do not belong in one evidentiary bucket. Some are ancient named mountains, some are parallel Flood traditions, some are later Noah pilgrimage sites, and some are modern Ark proposals built from geology or remote sensing.

Open the full candidate catalogAncient names, regional traditions, and modern proposals
Ancient landing namesLubar and Baris are actual names preserved in ancient or Second Temple texts.
Parallel Flood geographyNimuš/Nisir belongs to the Babylonian Utnapishtim tradition, not directly to Genesis.
Regional Noah memoryApamea, Nakhchivan and Gamigaya preserve historically important Noah traditions without proving a landing site.
Modern proposalsSabalan, Takht-e Suleiman and remote-sensing interpretations require modern geographic and geological testing.
Second Temple Jewish text

Mount Lubar

Book of Jubilees • “one of the mountains of Ararat”

Jubilees gives a specific name that Genesis does not: Noah’s Ark rests on Mount Lubar, and Noah later plants his vineyard there. Modern scholarship also discusses Qumran material connected with the Lubar tradition.

Strength

An ancient Jewish text explicitly names the mountain and still places it inside the broader Ararat region.

Problem

No modern mountain has been securely identified as Lubar. The text gives a historical name, not a recoverable GPS coordinate.

Read Jubilees 7 →

Hellenistic / Roman historical tradition

Mount Baris

Nicolaus of Damascus • preserved by Josephus

Josephus quotes Nicolaus describing a “great mountain in Armenia, over Minyas, called Baris” where a man carried in an ark came ashore and timber was said to survive.

Strength

The description supplies a named mountain plus a geographic marker—Minyas/Mannai—rather than merely saying “Armenia.”

Problem

Baris has never been identified securely. Some writers equate it with Masis/modern Ararat; others connect the passage more broadly with the Corduene/Qardu tradition. The source itself does not settle the modern identification.

Read Josephus 1.95 →

Parallel Mesopotamian Flood tradition

Nimuš / Nisir

Epic of Gilgamesh • Zagros / Iraqi Kurdistan identification debated

Tablet XI has Utnapishtim’s boat come to rest on Mount Nimuš, traditionally read Nisir. Scholars have often associated the ancient Nisir range south of the Lower Zab with the Piramagrun/Pir Omar Gudrun area.

Strength

It is a genuine ancient Flood-landing mountain in the Mesopotamian literary tradition, and the ancient Nisir geography can be discussed historically.

Problem

Utnapishtim is not simply Noah under another place-name. Using Nisir as the biblical landing place requires a separate argument about the relationship between the Babylonian and Genesis traditions.

Open Gilgamesh study →

Localized ancient Noah tradition

Apamea Kibotos

Phrygia • western Anatolia • Roman imperial period

Apamea in Phrygia developed a striking Noah tradition. Roman provincial coins depict an ark-like chest marked with Noah’s name, a man and woman, a dove and other Flood imagery. Nineteenth-century archaeology also recorded the local tradition.

Strength

The coins are material evidence that a Noah/Flood tradition was locally established by the Roman period—not a modern invention.

Problem

Apamea lies far outside the Ararat/Urartu geography of Genesis 8:4. The evidence is strongest for reception history and local sacred geography, not for the Ark’s actual landing site.

Hogarth on Apamea →

Post-Flood Noah tradition

Nakhchivan

Araxes valley • Azerbaijan

Nakhchivan preserves traditions of Noah settling or being buried there after the Flood. Nineteenth-century travelers and local investigators describe a Noah tomb shrine; a modern mausoleum now marks the traditional location.

Strength

The tradition is a real part of the region’s religious landscape and is documented before modern Ark tourism.

Problem

The popular derivations of “Nakhchivan” as “place of descent,” “first stop” or “Noah’s settlement” are disputed folk etymologies. Historical forms of the place-name predate those explanations.

Encyclopaedia Iranica →

Local oral tradition / cultural landscape

Gamigaya & İlandağ

Nakhchivan Autonomous Republic

Local folklore connects Gamigaya—literally framed today as “ship-rock”—with surviving Ark remains, while other Nakhchivan legends say the Ark struck or touched İlandağ. Azerbaijan’s 2024 UNESCO tentative-list submission explicitly records the Gamigaya oral tradition.

Strength

The tradition is geographically specific and officially documented as living cultural heritage.

Problem

The UNESCO record documents folklore; it does not date the tradition to antiquity or validate physical Ark remains. The petroglyph landscape must be interpreted independently of the later Noah story.

UNESCO tentative-list record →

Modern Iranian proposal

Sabalan / Savalon

Northwestern Iran • promoted 2001

Bob Cornuke and David Halbrook proposed Sabalan as part of a widened “mountains of Ararat” geography in In Search of the Lost Mountains of Noah. Cornuke later moved away from Sabalan after searching there and promoted a different Iranian candidate.

Strength

Sabalan is a major high mountain relatively near the historic Armenian/Urartian world and therefore generated a geographic argument rather than a purely visual anomaly claim.

Problem

No old Ark tradition or archaeological evidence ties the mountain specifically to Noah, and critics argue the proposed expansion of Ararat/Urartu into Iran is historically overextended.

Comparative review →

Modern geological / expedition claim

Takht-e Suleiman Massif

Alborz Mountains, Iran • BASE Institute 2005–2006

After the Sabalan proposal, Cornuke’s BASE Institute investigated a high Alborz site near the Takht-e Suleiman/Alam Kuh massif and promoted dark, beam-like rock formations as possible mineralized Ark remains.

Strength

The proposal involved actual expeditions and physical examination rather than satellite imagery alone.

Problem

The site is hundreds of kilometers east of the historically secure Urartian core, has no documented ancient Ark tradition, and the beam-like forms were not established archaeologically as worked timber.

Read detailed critique →

Modern biblical-geography proposal

Western Zagros / Zard Kuh

Iran • Russell Humphreys • 2011

Creation physicist Russell Humphreys argued from Genesis 11:2 that the post-Flood population traveled westward into Shinar and therefore began from a base camp east of southern Iraq. He proposed the western Zagros as the likely Ark region and singled out Zard Kuh as one visually promising high peak while explicitly allowing many other possibilities.

Strength

The proposal is built from an explicit biblical-geographic argument and identifies what would have to be true about travel from the landing region to Shinar.

Problem

It depends on disputed translation/narrative assumptions and does not provide an ancient local Ark tradition or physical archaeological evidence at Zard Kuh.

Read Humphreys 2011 →

Creation-geology landing model

Kağızman Ridge

Eastern Turkey • Tim Clarey / ICR • 2019

ICR geologist Tim Clarey proposed that the Ark grounded on a high paleo-ridge roughly 70 miles west of modern Mount Ararat. The argument comes from ICR’s Flood stratigraphic model: Clarey places Ark grounding near the end of the Zuni Megasequence and argues that modern Ararat rose later.

Strength

The proposal makes a specific geological prediction and keeps the biblical phrase “mountains of Ararat” regional rather than equating it automatically with the modern volcano.

Problem

It is a model-derived landing location rather than a place with ancient Ark tradition, remains, artifacts or direct field evidence of a vessel. Its chronology depends on ICR’s particular Flood-geology framework.

Read Clarey 2019 →

Different evidence tells us different things. An ancient text with an uncertain mountain name, a Roman coin showing Noah, a nineteenth-century shrine, an oral tradition, and a modern rock anomaly should not be treated as equivalent forms of evidence.
Additional proposals: Damavand and several other northern-Iran or neighboring-peak suggestions appear in modern Ark-location surveys, but most have little traceable argument or site-specific evidence behind them. They are noted here without being treated as established candidate locations.

Claims Ledger / Comparative File

Claims That Need Their Own Category

Some Ark claims are not really alternate landing sites at all. They are artifacts, place-name arguments, maps or traditions that are frequently recruited into a location argument after the fact.

DateSite / claimAssessment
2nd c. BCJubilees names Lubar. Noah’s vineyard is planted on the mountain where the Ark rested, “Lubar, one of the mountains of Ararat.”A genuine ancient Jewish landing-name tradition; modern identification unresolved.
Ancient textual evidence
1st c. BC / ADNicolaus names Baris. Preserved in Josephus as a great mountain above Minyas in Armenia.Historical evidence for a named Armenian Ark mountain, but Baris cannot yet be mapped securely to a modern peak.
Ancient geographic claim
Ancient MesopotamiaGilgamesh names Nimuš/Nisir. Utnapishtim’s vessel grounds there.Primary comparative Flood geography. It should not be silently converted into the Genesis landing site.
Parallel tradition
2nd–3rd c. ADApamea coins depict Noah and an ark.Strong evidence for an ancient localized Noah tradition in Phrygia; weak evidence for the biblical landing place because the geography conflicts with Genesis’s Ararat region.
Reception / sacred geography
19th c.+Nakhchivan “Noah tomb” and descent-name traditions.The shrine tradition is historically documented; the popular etymology of Nakhchivan as “first descent” is not secure historical linguistics.
Documented later tradition
ModernGamigaya “ship-rock” and Ark remains folklore.Living oral tradition now documented by UNESCO’s tentative-list submission. No dated archaeological context connects the petroglyph complex to Noah’s vessel.
Cultural tradition
2001–2006Iranian Ark shift: Sabalan → Takht-e Suleiman massif.Documented modern expedition proposals whose geographic and geological interpretations remain unverified; the change of candidate itself belongs in the history of the claim.
Modern proposal
2011Western Zagros / Zard Kuh. Russell Humphreys argues that Genesis 11:2 points to a post-Flood base camp east of Shinar and therefore to the western Zagros, mentioning Zard Kuh as one candidate.A clearly stated modern biblical-geography hypothesis; no ancient Zard Kuh Ark tradition or physical Ark evidence is offered.
Model-derived proposal
2019Kağızman Ridge. Tim Clarey argues from ICR’s Flood stratigraphy that a high paleo-ridge west of modern Ararat formed at the time he assigns to Ark grounding.A specific creation-geology hypothesis with testable model assumptions; not an archaeological discovery claim and not supported by an old local landing tradition.
Geological-model proposal
2024–2026“Babylonian map gives directions to Noah’s Ark.” Irving Finkel drew attention to a damaged passage on BM 92687 involving a parsiktu-sized object in an outer region, while Urartu appears elsewhere on the map.The Babylonian World Map is real and names Urartu; the British Museum describes the reverse as broken and largely unintelligible. Reading the parsiktu passage as directions to surviving Flood-vessel remains is an interpretive reconstruction, not a literal label saying “Noah’s Ark here.”
Artifact real / interpretation debated

Chronology / Comparative Sites

How the “Other Sites” File Developed

The miscellaneous history stretches from ancient named mountains to twenty-first-century media claims. Seeing them chronologically prevents a recent proposal from borrowing antiquity from an unrelated older tradition.

Ancient Mesopotamian tradition

Nimuš / Nisir

The Babylonian Flood hero Utnapishtim lands on a named mountain in a parallel literary tradition.

2nd century BC

Jubilees names Lubar

A Jewish retelling specifies Mount Lubar as one of the mountains of Ararat.

1st century BC–AD

Baris enters the historical record

Nicolaus of Damascus, quoted by Josephus, preserves a named Armenian mountain and relic tradition.

2nd–3rd centuries AD

Apamea mints Noah imagery

Roman provincial coins show that Noah and the Ark had become part of Apamea’s local civic/religious identity.

19th century

Nakhchivan tomb tradition is documented

Travelers and local writers record a shrine identified as Noah’s tomb and associated descent traditions.

2001

Sabalan enters modern Ark literature

Cornuke and Halbrook argue for a northern-Iran extension of the mountains of Ararat.

2005–2006

BASE shifts to the Alborz

Cornuke promotes a Takht-e Suleiman-area formation after earlier Sabalan searching.

2011

Humphreys proposes the western Zagros

Russell Humphreys argues from the route to Shinar that the Ark region should lie east of southern Iraq and suggests Zard Kuh as one possible high peak.

2019

Clarey proposes Kağızman Ridge

Tim Clarey uses ICR’s Flood-stratigraphic model to argue for a paleo-ridge west of modern Mount Ararat rather than the volcanic summit itself.

2024–2026

The Babylonian World Map goes viral

Finkel’s discussion of the map’s damaged outer-region text is recast in popular media as ancient “directions to Noah’s Ark.”

Archive Desk / Comparative Sources

Documents Behind the Miscellaneous Claims

The easiest way to inflate an alternative Ark claim is to quote a place-name without its date, genre or geography. These are the sources ArkSearch uses to keep the cases separated.

Open full source dossierSources behind the miscellaneous claims
Jubilees

Mount Lubar

Jubilees explicitly says Noah planted his vineyard on the mountain where the Ark rested, “Lubar, one of the Ararat Mountains.” Modern scholarship treats Lubar as an important independent landing-name tradition whose modern location remains unresolved.

Read Jubilees 7 →   Stone & Topchyan →

Key questionDo not convert “Lubar” into a modern mountain until the name can be traced through independent geography.
Josephus

Nicolaus of Damascus — Mount Baris

Josephus preserves Nicolaus’s statement that a great mountain called Baris stood above Minyas in Armenia and was associated with a flood survivor in an ark and preserved timber.

Open Antiquities 1.95 →

Key questionBaris is a real ancient literary name; identifying it with Masis, Cudi or another peak is a separate historical-geography argument.
Gilgamesh

Nimuš / Nisir

The Babylonian Flood account gives Utnapishtim’s vessel its own landing mountain. Older scholarship often localized Nisir south of the Lower Zab near Piramagrun/Pir Omar Gudrun.

Oriental Institute study →

Use it forComparative Mesopotamian Flood geography, not automatic identification with Genesis.
Roman era

Apamea Kibotos Coins

Roman provincial coins from Apamea depict Noah, an ark-like chest and Flood imagery. Hogarth’s nineteenth-century site study also records the long-lived local Ark tradition.

Hogarth 1888 →

Use it forMaterial evidence for reception and localized sacred geography—not for relocating Genesis 8:4 to Phrygia.
Nakhchivan

Place-name and Noah Tomb Traditions

Encyclopaedia Iranica traces the historical forms of Nakhchivan independently of Noah folk etymology. Nineteenth-century descriptions, however, show that a real Noah tomb pilgrimage tradition existed locally by that period.

Iranica →   Regional archive →

Key questionSeparate the age of the shrine tradition from the age claimed for the place-name etymology.
2024

Gamigaya UNESCO Tentative List

Azerbaijan’s submission describes local oral folklore that Ark remains were preserved at Gamigaya and explicitly explains the “rock-ship” name through that tradition.

Open UNESCO record →

Use it forDocumenting present cultural memory. UNESCO listing does not authenticate Ark remains.
2001–06

Iranian Ark Proposals

Cornuke’s work moved from Sabalan to the Takht-e Suleiman/Alborz region. Gordon Franz’s contemporary critique reconstructs the books, expedition claims and geographic objections in detail.

Detailed Iran critique →

Key questionDoes the proposed location fit historical Ararat/Urartu geography before physical resemblance is considered?
2011

Humphreys — Western Zagros

Russell Humphreys argues from Genesis 11:2 that Noah’s descendants traveled westward into Shinar from a nearby base camp east of southern Iraq, placing the likely Ark region in the western Zagros. He singles out Zard Kuh as one possible high peak while acknowledging other possibilities.

Open Journal of Creation paper →

Key questionThe case stands or falls primarily on its Hebrew/narrative and Flood-geography assumptions, not on recovered Ark material.
2019

Clarey — Kağızman Ridge

Tim Clarey proposes that a paleo-ridge west of modern Ararat was emergent at the point in ICR’s Flood-stratigraphic model that he assigns to Genesis 8:4, while the modern volcanic cone formed later.

Open ICR article →

Key questionEvaluate the underlying Flood-stratigraphic chronology and whether any archaeological or historical evidence independently points to Kağızman Ridge.
6th c. BC / 2024

Babylonian Map of the World

British Museum 92687 names Urartu on the mapped world and contains damaged descriptions of outer mythic regions. Irving Finkel’s 2024 interpretation links one rare measurement term to Flood-vessel literature; popular media strengthened that into “directions to Noah’s Ark.”

British Museum video record →   Museum object description →

Key questionDistinguish what is legible on the tablet from the reconstruction proposed for damaged text.

ArkSearch Assessment

How the Miscellaneous Claims Rank

Assessment

The strongest entries in this file are not necessarily the strongest Ark candidates. Lubar, Baris, Nisir and Apamea are historically valuable because they prove that multiple named Flood/Ark geographies circulated in antiquity. Nakhchivan and Gamigaya preserve genuine regional Noah memory, but the securely documented forms of those traditions are much later. Sabalan and Takht-e Suleiman are modern proposals that must stand or fall on historical geography and physical evidence rather than borrowing authority from older traditions elsewhere.

Historically significantLubar, Baris, Nisir and Apamea because each is tied to an ancient text, artifact or identifiable tradition.
Tradition, not proofNakhchivan, Gamigaya, Noah-tomb traditions and other regional place-name memories.
Modern proposalsSabalan and Takht-e Suleiman/Alborz require independently reproducible archaeological or geological evidence.
Media cautionThe Babylonian World Map is authentic; “directions to Noah’s Ark” is an interpretation of damaged text, not a label written on the artifact.

Dossier Navigator / Interactive

Work the Case File

Move between the major evidence categories without losing the distinction between what is observed and what is inferred.

Catalog before dismissing

Alternative sites may preserve regional memories that are historically useful even if they never become strong archaeological candidates. ArkSearch records them so the history of interpretation remains visible.

Test the place-name argument

Many proposals depend on identifying ancient regional names with modern topography. Those arguments need linguistic history, route geography and chronological control.

Remote sensing is a lead, not a verdict

Satellite anomalies and unusual landforms can justify investigation. They become evidence only when ground truth, geology and provenance support the visual interpretation.

Use one standard for every candidate

Other proposals should face the same evidentiary framework as Ağrı Dağı, Durupınar and Cudi Dağı: documentation, corroboration, alternative explanation and reproducibility.